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Posted June 09, 2012

cadderist6527

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All good questions!!

God is good. God is the embodiement of good, but evil is not something tangible. Evil is not something one can create; like cold. Cold is not something tangible that can be created. It is merely the absence of heat. Evil is the absence of good. Evil is the absence of God.

Yes human nature is sinful, just because it is our nature does not make it right. Furthermore we know when we did wrong even if we got away with it. There is something in us that tells us we are doing wrong even nags us to the brink of repentance. We call it our "conscience" (means "with knowledge") God put that knowledge there? In time with practice, we learn to suppress our conscience, but at one time we knew it was wrong. Now we embrace such slogans as "if it feel good it must be right"

God doesn't expect us to be perfect because He already sees us as perfect. God knew we were anything but perfect, which is why He sent His Son to pay for our sins. Christ sacrifice ena
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All good questions but no answers. Just that same old mantra. "Jesus died for our sins." Then we have none. What was his sacrifice for if we're still in sin? It's not making sense.
A child doesn't know right from wrong. It's taught that. What you call a conscience is just that teaching. It's like a tape playing in your head. You can ignore it if you want to. Some people do. Some people weren't taught. So even tho a child doesn't know right from wrong, it's still sinning? It will still be burnt up? What kind of god is this? How can you blame yourself for being what you were created to be? How is that our fault? God did it all. That's like saying It's our fault for being black, so whatever the white folks do is alright because we are black. This is the same bs story they told us from the bible. That our blackness was a curse from god. It's our fault that we are slaves. That's like telling a woman it's her fault she got raped because she's a woman. How can you blame the victims? Does that really make any sense to you? Blaming the victim for being what they have no choice but to be? Really?

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Posted June 09, 2012

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All good questions but no answers. Just that same old mantra. "Jesus died for our sins." Then we have none. What was his sacrifice for if we're still in sin? It's not making sense.
A child doesn't know right from wrong. It's taught that. What you call a conscience is just that teaching. It's like a tape playing in your head. You can ignore it if you want to. Some people do. Some people weren't taught. So even tho a child doesn't know right from wrong, it's still sinning? It will still be burnt up? What kind of god is this? How can you blame yourself for being what you were created to be? How is that our fault? God did it all. That's like saying It's our fault for being black, so whatever the white folks do is alright because we are black. This is the same bs story they told us from the bible. That our blackness was a curse from god. It's our fault that we are slaves. That's like telling a woman it's her fault she got raped because she's a woman. How can
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Of course a child knows right from wrong, and even when they are scolded. They still do wrong knowing full well it's wrong.
Blackness was a curse from God??? what? There's no biblical support from that, unless you are a Mormon and Mormonism is not Christianity

Your argument doesn't wash and your analogies are weak. What you are pleading is ignorance of the law, and even in our courts that is not an excuse so why would you expect God to be any different? That is like you having a tendencie to steal and you know it's wrong but you do it anyway because it satifies your urge, gives you a high etc...etc... and when the police catch up with you. What are you gonna say, I am genetically proned to steal. It's written in my DNA. Do you think human courts would buy that so why should God? You are no longer ignorant. You know what you are doing is wrong and yet you continue to do it. You made the choice.

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Posted June 09, 2012

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Your sin is a consequence of God creating evil. Satan was created by God. If God didnt want sin, he wouildn't have allowed it to be any. Plus what you call sin is humans being human. How can God expect us to be other than human? He created us as humans and programmed us to be human. But you say he expects us to be perfect like Jesus? Why didn't he make us like Jesus? We are what he made us to be. He is perfect and does not make mistakes, right? So what is he saving us from if not Himself? He created us to be what we are, yet he will burn us up for that?

My GOD is good but not PERFECT!

His LOVE-grace and mercy is PERFECT!

JESUS WASN'T PERFECT EITHER!

There is a way that seemeth right to man
but leads to death

So this means that there is life after death

God is saving us from ourselves!

If you repent then you made a mistake!

GOD REPENTED two or three time in the bible!

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Male, 31, Stone Mountain, GA

Posted June 09, 2012

freshstartalt

Male, 55, Wichita, KS

My GOD is good but not PERFECT!

His LOVE-grace and mercy is PERFECT!

JESUS WASN'T PERFECT EITHER!

There is a way that seemeth right to man
but leads to death

So this means that there is life after death

God is saving us from ourselves!

If you repent then you made a mistake!

GOD REPENTED two or three time in the bible!

My friend. I have a question. If Jesus Christ was not perfect, how then is He able to die for other's sins? because then should I be able to die for other's sins

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freshstartalt

Male, 55, Wichita, KS

Posted June 09, 2012

cadderist6527

Male, 31, Stone Mountain, GA

My friend. I have a question. If Jesus Christ was not perfect, how then is He able to die for other's sins? because then should I be able to die for other's sins

WHAT is PERFECT?

NO FLAWS!

JESUS GOT MAD

JESUS TALKED REAL BAD TO THE DECIPLES

BECAUSE OF THEIR UNBELIEF

HE BEAT THE EVIL ONES OUT OF THE TEMPLE WHY?

BECAUSE HE GOT MAD!

A PERFECT INDIVIDUAL
DOES NOT GET ANGRY OR MAD

THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND MATURITY WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO GET HOSTILE!

GOD nor JESUS EVER SAID THAT THEY WERE PERFECT

MAN DID!

THAT'S HOW LIES GET STARTED!

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Posted June 09, 2012

cadderist6527

Male, 31, Stone Mountain, GA

Of course a child knows right from wrong, and even when they are scolded. They still do wrong knowing full well it's wrong.
Blackness was a curse from God??? what? There's no biblical support from that, unless you are a Mormon and Mormonism is not Christianity

Your argument doesn't wash and your analogies are weak. What you are pleading is ignorance of the law, and even in our courts that is not an excuse so why would you expect God to be any different? That is like you having a tendencie to steal and you know it's wrong but you do it anyway because it satifies your urge, gives you a high etc...etc... and when the police catch up with you. What are you gonna say, I am genetically proned to steal. It's written in my DNA. Do you think human courts would buy that so why should God? You are no longer ignorant. You know what you are doing is wrong and yet you continue to do it. You made the choice.

You dance well. Quite adept at avoiding direct questions with straw men side issues. There is no support for white folks telling us we were cursed because it's not in the bible. They didn't allow us to read. They told us whatever version they wanted to. They twisted it to fit their needs and spoon fed it to us. They did the same with every other peoples they conquered. To control their hearts and minds and thereby control the people.

I'm only debating the bible because it's your holy book. which you take literally. To me it's all a made up story and I'm just pointing out some of the flaws. I believe none of it. Men wrote it; And men are full of it. And ignorant and will believe anything. Even with no proof and it not making the least bit of sense. Blind faith.

Here's a direct question. Better yet, it's a statement. Jesus died for everyone's sins, so we are without sin. It wasn't just for those that believed, because no one believed at the time. Not even his disciples.

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Posted June 09, 2012

cadderist6527

Male, 31, Stone Mountain, GA

My friend. I have a question. If Jesus Christ was not perfect, how then is He able to die for other's sins? because then should I be able to die for other's sins

It didn't happen. It's just a rumor started by his disciples. Jesus did not rise from the dead. If he did, he would have had a parade to show all mankind that he had arisen. The greatest feat in the history of the world, yet there is no recorded history of it? Only the made up story in the bible which was edited and approved for publication at the conference of Nicea. Where they also decided, three centuries after his death, to make Jesus Christ a god by putting him in the trinity. This is documented history. Not rumor.

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Posted June 09, 2012

freshstartalt

Male, 55, Wichita, KS

WHAT is PERFECT?

NO FLAWS!

JESUS GOT MAD

JESUS TALKED REAL BAD TO THE DECIPLES

BECAUSE OF THEIR UNBELIEF

HE BEAT THE EVIL ONES OUT OF THE TEMPLE WHY?

BECAUSE HE GOT MAD!

A PERFECT INDIVIDUAL
DOES NOT GET ANGRY OR MAD

THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND MATURITY WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO GET HOSTILE!

GOD nor JESUS EVER SAID THAT THEY WERE PERFECT

MAN DID!

THAT'S HOW LIES GET STARTED!

It's all lies. Made up stories. And even tho they make no sense, people fervently believe in them. And make up more lies as they go. Determined to make it fit and just as determined to convince you that they are right. And they are in a way. Because whatever you believe, is the truth, to you. Maybe only to you, but it's your truth. Not everyone's.

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cadderist6527

Male, 31, Stone Mountain, GA

Of course a child knows right from wrong, and even when they are scolded. They still do wrong knowing full well it's wrong.
Blackness was a curse from God??? what? There's no biblical support from that, unless you are a Mormon and Mormonism is not Christianity

Your argument doesn't wash and your analogies are weak. What you are pleading is ignorance of the law, and even in our courts that is not an excuse so why would you expect God to be any different? That is like you having a tendencie to steal and you know it's wrong but you do it anyway because it satifies your urge, gives you a high etc...etc... and when the police catch up with you. What are you gonna say, I am genetically proned to steal. It's written in my DNA. Do you think human courts would buy that so why should God? You are no longer ignorant. You know what you are doing is wrong and yet you continue to do it. You made the choice.

And a child does not know right from wrong. We teach our children right from wrong. Children's brains aren't developed to the point where they can just know without teaching. They haven't experienced enough to know. It's why they have parents to teach them. It's why the parents are responsible until they turn 18, even tho they do know by then.

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