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Robert c Sproul wrote . I a person is not born again. he is not a Christian. well what is A religious person. who believes Jesus the Christ. and who is a member of a Christian denomination. Following the teachings or manifesting the qualities or spirit of Jesus Christ. Or Jesus the Christ I think when you ask most people are they save, or a Christian. that means being Christ like they would say yes. on they way to the club. or getting ready to have sex with some one. and say he, (GOD) understand, understand !!!! understand what ? More over just being born again don't put you on the road of salvation. (theology) the act of delivering from sin or saving from evil. Is the act of, I found most of us Christian that has Salvation is only acting. and we are not save. SAVED from what ( saved mean to Rescued; especially from the power and consequences of sin ) are we saved, or do we have A religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ and who is a member of a Christian denomination if this all it take any body qualifies. Or are we are just religions. (A strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny or An institution to express belief in a divine power.) any body qualifies for that too. And if that all it takes, that all I will do. But you will not make it in to the golden gates with that attitude. Jesus call it paradise. He was saved. We need to know the difference between the two. When you are saved. You walk like it. talk like it. If you say you are born again you make a promise to serve God and Christ, and some how we switch. Into some form of mass and missed the massage and turn to a channel. were the preacher sounds good. but is became spiritually dead you can not have salvation and do and say anything. The church is the biggest sleeping giant alive (a bunch or inactive people.) my four. and no more.( I declare these are the sines of trouble) the dictionary defines a person that is born-again individual as a usually Christian person who has made a renewed or confirmed commitment of faith especially after a intense religions experience Jesus and God never called us to be religion. and the bible do not agree with that definition. don't even come close, but some of us believe that all it takes. ARE YOU SURPRISED you shouldn't be. God don't think like man. And man don't think like God. Some times we confuse the two. And we some times stuck between God and man and we being the 3rd party. gets lost in the translation and speech. and us not knowing. and somebody else opinion which is the 4th party. and we have not talk to god. his opinion is the only one counts. the only place in the bible. that talks about being born again is is john 3 :1-12 1
it reads

Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 the same came unto him by night, and said to him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except one be born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother`s womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except one be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God!
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born anew.
8 The wind bloweth where it will, and thou hearest the voice thereof, but knowest not whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou the teacher of Israel, and understandest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that which we know, and bear witness of that which we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I told you earthly things and ye believe not, how shall ye believe if I tell you heavenly things?
13 And no one hath ascended into heaven, but he that descended out of heaven, [even] the Son of man, who is in heaven

Now Nicodemus is not just the run of the mill man. he was one of the most influential Jewish leader around in his town. he all so was a biblical scholar. of the 70 Jews, on the ruling council. to us today he would have been like. the congress/Supreme court, so he was a educated man. and him and Jesus had a intriguing conversation. he was stuck, he ask the craziest question. (4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother's womb, and be born?) now he had to know that was not possible but look at this (10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou the teacher of Israel, and understandest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that which we know, and bear witness of that which we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

Nicodemus still didn't understand what he was saying why,(12 If I told you earthly things and ye believe not, how shall ye believe if I tell you heavenly things?) can a rib bi be a unbeliever ? But Jesus, put in portent note in and thats. unless you be born again he can't see the kingdom of God. no man can see . if their not born again think about this. unless the sun rise and shine. we can't see day light and day light is necessary for a new birth. Christians should understand this subject accurately. or we well get cough between somebody opinions. check the bible first.


Why Jesus sayed that one reason is because Nicodemus knew the bible. and was educated but he only live and understood the natural. and he could only receive the natural. knowing all he knew he never had a spiritual encounter with God. he was spiritually dead. sound like some churches I know. big church 10,000,000 member and just a sleeping giant, dead!!!! I ask you if Jesus didn't stay dead why do we?

1 peter 3: 23

3 Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to his great mercy begat us again unto a living hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 unto an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 who by the power of God are guarded through faith unto a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, ye have been put to grief in manifold trials,
7 that the proof of your faith, [being] more precious than gold that perisheth though it is proved by fire, may be found unto praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ:
8 whom not having seen ye love; on whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice greatly with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
9 receiving the end of your faith, [even] the salvation of [your] souls.
10 Concerning which salvation the prophets sought and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that [should come] unto you:
11 searching what [time] or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did point unto, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glories that should follow them.
12 To whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto you, did they minister these things, which now have been announced unto you through them that preached the gospel unto you by the Holy Spirit sent forth from heaven; which things angel desire to look into.
13 Wherefore girding up the loins of your mind, be sober and set your hope perfectly on the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 as children of obedience, not fashioning yourselves according to your former lusts in [the time of] your ignorance:
15 but like as he who called you is holy, be ye yourselves also holy in all manner of living;
16 because it is written, Ye shall be holy; for I am holy. (god and Jesus call us to be holy meaning clean and in right standing with god and im not adding on to the word just making a point )
17 And if ye call on him as Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to each man`s work, pass the time of your sojourning in fear:
18 knowing that ye were redeemed, not with corruptible things, with silver or gold, from your vain manner of life handed down from your fathers;
19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb without spot, [even the blood] of Christ:
20 who was foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but was manifested at the end of times for your sake,
21 who through him are believers in God, that raised him from the dead, and gave him glory; so that your faith and hope might be in God.
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in your obedience to the truth unto unfeigned love of the brethren, love one another from the heart fervently:
23 having been begotten again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, through the word of God, which liveth and abideth

Thats should be our statement of faith. because it talking about being born again. and not the act of being born again. are you acting? Some of you may not know saying to yourself. I think, I know, but do you. We have to make a personal decision. Some preachers quot john 3:7. be born again and to obey Jesus and his laws and live. the life this is a comman place in the church world today. the the new convert say OK go back to their seat. And lost what do all this means. some may have not been to a church. Before, and their mind is massed up. and hopefully they don't follow bad example. or get bad counsel. from some one that look good or sound good and jump and shout all over the church. nothing is wrong with it but it can't be replace with the true spirit of God. remember Nicodemus. in his inability to understand the spirit. like some of us because all we know is the natural. (Definition of natural Existing in or in conformity with nature or the observable world; neither supernatural nor magical) this is free if we are born again we don't live in the natural. I get a lot of money. with just that information if we lived in the natural all the well never get any place on Ill own we well be bounded to the natural and any thing natural well pass away. and that is anything natural think!!! the spirit lives on the natural stops!!! think, that is for free remember haven and earth well pass away .(natural) but his word, but his word, BUT HIS WORD, is going to stand. spirit get it , the Greek expression translation born again "should be born from above" no one understood this more. Than Jesus,

4 For indeed we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened; not for that we would be unclothed, but that we would be clothed upon, that what is mortal may be swallowed up of life.
5 Now he that wrought us for this very thing is God, who gave unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6 Being therefore always of good courage, and knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord
7 (for we walk by faith, not by sight);
8 we are of good courage, I say, and are willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be at home with the Lord.
9 Wherefore also we make it our aim, whether at home or absent, to be well-pleasing unto him.

I was try not to but I had to put that in

7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by that law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.
8 When Pilate therefore heard this saying, he was the more afraid;
9 and he entered into the Praetorium again, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.
10 Pilate therefore saith unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? Knowest thou not that I have power to release thee, and have power to crucify thee?
11 Jesus answered him, Thou wouldest have no power against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath greater sin.

Pilate understanding the spirit did this

22 Pilate saith unto them, What then shall I do unto Jesus who is called Christ? They all say, Let him be crucified.
23 And he said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out exceedingly, saying, Let him be crucified.
24 So when Pilate saw that he prevailed nothing, but rather that a tumult was arising, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this righteous man; see ye [to it].
25 And all the people answered and said, His blood [be] on us, and on our children ( he did not wont a generational curse on him in his children's )

Matthew 27:24

in this story, Jesus should have been scared and shaking in his boots. but he was not because he knew they can't do nothing to him. unless God let them, that a bad man. He trust God. He understood the kingdom of god a kingdom. is a form of government . The government of God we are under his law and they did not have power over him lets look at this .

But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou art the Christ, the Son of God.

64 Jesus said unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Henceforth ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.
65 Then the high priest rent his garments, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy: what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard the blasphemy:
Matthew 26

13 I saw in the night-visions, and, behold, there came with the clouds of heaven one like unto a son of man, and he came even to the ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all the peoples, nations, and languages should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Daniel 7:

8 And when he had taken the book, the four living creatures and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
9 And they sing a new song, saying, Worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou was slain, and didst purchase unto God with thy blood [men] of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation,
10 and madest them [to be] unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon earth.
11 And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels round about the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
12 saying with a great voice, Worthy is the Lamb that hath been slain to receive the power, and riches, and wisdom, and might and honor, and glory, and blessing.
13 And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all things are in them, heard I saying, Unto him that sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb, [be] the blessing, and the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for ever and ever.
14 And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders fell down and worshipped.

Revelation 5:

God also reveals who will rule as kings with him 144,000 people who came from earth

1 And I saw, and behold, the Lamb standing on the mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty and four thousand, having his name, and the name of his Father, written on their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and the voice which I heard [was] as [the voice] of harpers harping with their harps:
3 and they sing as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four living creatures and the elders: and no man could learn the song save the hundred and forty and four thousand, [even] they that had been purchased out of the earth.
Revelation 14

I put that in so we will know. after being born again .you have to understand the kingdom. and it is like this what god say will go. .............................. .................... and there is nothing. I or we or you can do about it............................ ................. we don't belong to ill self never did anyway........................ .. we n the the body it can be beneath you most of us god called us in a low place now you have a position "it's beneath me to do that"; "everyone else was beneath me" I seen that in church all the time
have to learn kingdom principle. and the only way to do that is to have a relationship with God. out side of the church. what do I mean. when you can live right. make good decision. without out side help now you are walking in the spirit. and after that anything you set your mind to is already done. because it started in the spirit first remember. Jesus spoke to Nicodemus and say ed unless anyone is born into the kingdom is born from the water and spirit why water was first let take a look at this.

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters
Genesis 1:1-2

water and the spirit was here first. that all God came with because, And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: their was nothing here but water. (and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters )water mean life nothing on earth and live with-out its presents. if we take it away. The earth will turn in to wast that also means void we simply can-not exist without life or water and what is living with-out life nothing? (darkness).......think!!!..... .............................. ...............
we are not natural! We can't live without the spirit or water we will die both spiritually and naturally (Nicodemus) so Jesus use the word spirit he was thinking the holy spirit. A active force of God. Baptized with the holy spirit mean to be born from water like the earth was
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And he preached, saying, There cometh after me he that is mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
8
I baptized you in water; But he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit.

Mark 1: 7-8

let go quickly to the day of Pentecost in the year of 33 C.E. about a 120 disciple of Jesus. in Jerusalem and they was full with the holy spirit the base of the word means clean. but also means Belonging to or derived from or associated with a divine power. that him living in you .and it can not happen with-out the holy ghost or Spirit we need it.

1
And when the day of Pentecost was now come, they were all together in one place.
2
And suddenly there came from heaven a sound as of the rushing of a mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3
And there appeared unto them tongues parting asunder, like as of fire; and it sat upon each one of them.
4
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance
Acts 2: 1-4

38
And Peter [said] unto them, Repent ye, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ unto the remission of your sins; and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
39
For to you is the promise, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call unto him.
40
And with many other words he testified, and exhorted them, saying, Save yourselves from this crooked generation.
41
They then that received his word were baptized: and there were added [unto them] in that day about three thousand souls.
Acts 2: 38-41

now john, had the same number of converts. hopefully buy now you understand .water and spirit ,Im now is going to move on. into the next lesson. in the new birth. what dose all that accomplish? Now as we know it a two fold process now Jesus and his 12 was the first people that not just repented but turn away from their sins and dedicated their life to God .and served him only now the are kingdom kids. and was anointed with the holy spirit .but, the baptism with water is the first part of the two fold process. The second part of the is all so a baptism but this time by the holy spirit both baptisms brings you to a new born

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things.
12 For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know fully even as also I was fully known.
I Corinthians 13: 11-12

was he talking about salvation ?

17 Wherefore if any man is in Christ, [he is] a new creature: the old things are passed away; behold, they are become new.

II Corinthians 5: 17

this is a remarkable change. but we all don't have it .(acting) new birth mean a new beginning .all thing are passed away. and we become new a person with God .remember God is love. and love is God But now abideth faith, hope, love, these three; and the greatest of these is love. ( God) I Corinthians 13: 13...... Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is begotten of God, and knoweth God.
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love I John 4: 7-8.......... Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. I John 4: 15-16 in this we should have a complete change. in Ill relation-ship with others because god is preparing us for ruler-ship . in his kingdom apostle Paul say ed that it like being adopted in the family of God that he might redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
And because ye are sons, God sent forth the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
So that thou art no longer a bond servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.

What is a bond-servant (Someone bound to labor without wages) we have the same rights the other children of God have. that day the same hour. and you meet all the requirements for the kingdom. of god kingdom is more than just a church. we have to learn to depend on God. and him only, now why we are still imperfect people. but now we have the power to over come the devil. though Jesus but in god. So ill nature have not change but Ill spirit have we have a new status. and a new out look on life. and now we are priests of God. and of Christ let go to the. resurrection because if we die to I sins. Than die a nature deaf .and we know by now the Sprint live on . and well be broth back to life. like we was when we where in sin. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: over these the second death hath with. no power; but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign him a thousand years Revelation 20 : 6 we have power today to over come anything. Sickness, money problem, we not a bond servant any more. if God did it for Jesus, he well do it for us. We now have the same rights we can pray for the sick. and they recover .we can raise people from the dead . now god say -ed we well do greater works if you don't know what you suppose to be doing in life. let me help you greater works think........ and it is not always something .we know how to do or good. at God can not get the glory out of that. it is all way some. we can not do something. we are not good at. because it s to God be the Glory .you can get none. because now we know or you know it was not only just you. Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater [works] than these shall he do; because I go unto the Father.
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
If ye shall ask anything in my name, that will I do.
If ye love me, ye will keep my commandments.
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may be with you for ever,
[even] the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you.
John 14 : 12-17
now you seen all that came with a condition we can just believe our way in to the kingdom that is the biggest lie that ever been told now we will fall short but we have the power to not stay their though Christ in God .other than that we are die man walking But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Romans 8 :11-15
but the world is try to make you believe something difference DON'T because if you do are spirit well die and after you well too god don't live in churches and tents anymore or we have to have him living and alive in us we are the ones that are going to do Greater word why because greater work live in side me you all of us will do greater works. and in one of the apostle Paul writing he wrote
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
Do you see the word love keep coming up I am don't a big fan of the apostle Paul which was the 13th 14th or 15th apostle? lets pause for a history lesson (the 12 men chosen by Christ. To preach the gospel was 1 peter his brother 2 Andrew,3 James,and 4 John -the sons of Zebedee- 5 Philip, 6 Batholomew, 7 Thomas, 8 Matthew, 9 James-son of Alpreus their was two James one was called James the lesser and the other greater -10 Thaddeus 11 Simon 12 Judas Iscariot Judas had been one of the Twelve, but he betrayed Jesus and killed himself. these are self proclaimed apostle like some of us. they are Mattias, Berabas, he also have a book not in the bible and Paul the apostle now in all Jesus had about 70 decipals these 3 come after the death and ras of Jesus) But a lot of this writing hold true today he was try to get it right his self and lay a true foundation of god though Christ but had a problem. people. position in the church, money, and the list go and go we can not become corrupt with these things. or we well be acting. And if you or acting their well be no action in the body of Christ there is no big eyes and little you we all have to make it in the same way it don't matter how much money you make you name have to be in the same book remember spirit first and the natural don't matter it well pass away. It is time for us to turn to the same station one of the problem is, too many church is not preaching the truth too many doctrine that is made up or man made. to many people bucking for position in the church and now in the home hit ! hit !that why some of all home is massed up any time you living a mass and not the bible. Their well we trouble the other is their 34 thousand difference sub group in Christianity. but we all read the same bible. But believe something else. In other word we share a command belief but to ever sub group it is interpreted deferent I say to you again, pray and check the bible first. We are in trouble people. And a church divided is no church at all (think) ........we have to get it together people. the other thing is. emergent Coming into existence. ............symbiotic Used of organisms (especially of different species) living together but not necessarily in a relation beneficial to each a understanding of these thing well help. It is a relationship there is no such thing as independent in nature. why our universe exit in a countenest state of change and we do to look at some old pictures. and in that is for free too get pay a lot of money for that information. we are connected to everything around us don't believe me. take plants away. take the sun away. we are all connected we depend on each other. To live god people too. It a life style not a show the have and the don't have. Don't matter much with god it don't matter what you say or believe it is your life let the life I live speak for me and let it be Christ like I don't wont to die and no one have nothing to say or they lie let the life I live speak for me people and let god have the finial words well done my good and faithful served we are all served i

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