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US airman stands his ground in Florida, sentenced to 25 years


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  • Posted: December 14, 2013


A former U.S. airman is currently sitting in a Florida prison for what his supporters argue was a simple act of self-defense.

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Male, 57, Austell, GA

Posted December 14, 2013


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Female, 55, Coleman, FL


For your information, the reasonable justifications you site to convict in the case of a stand your ground defense is what any reasonable minded citizen would expect from the courts. ;A higher threshold to use deadly force as a result of taking someone's life. What seems to illude you in each case iyou mentioned where stand your ground proved to be insufficient as a proper defense is when the shooter is poor and/or minority.
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This is true...to a point... but some truth is omitted.
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http://www.tampabay.com/news/c ourts/criminal/race-plays-comp lex-role-in-floridas-st
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I'm down with you on that Blaquebutta...

But, my knowledge extends to both pre and post civil rights. Just like some folks are Old or Testament, I believe you need knowledge of both.

In the words of our venerated Ancestor Richard Pryor:

"I went to court seeking justice, and all I found was 'just us'".


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Male, 57, Austell, GA

Posted December 14, 2013


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Female, 55, Coleman, FL


Ok.

You can bite my azz.

When you are ready for dialog, s/o attempting to attack/insult me, we can communicate.

Until, then you can suck nutts.


My apologizes if I offended you. You seem like a good person and I hate to ruined the opportunity to read the insights and perspectives you provide.

Thanks for sharing;)


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Female, 54, Chicago, IL

Posted December 14, 2013


Those backwards thinking always getting it wrong white dummies did not even lock up that psychotic minded Mexican Zimmerman for shooting ang killing a black guy who did not have a gun on him but, a bag of skittles on him and did not like to fight and that Mexican Dog Zimmerman k that Trayvon Martin did not carry guns and that is why that foreign disease carrying and passing devil dog from another country had shot him dead.

Those racist white people k that Trayvon Martin was a Angel sent from heaven by God but, those racist white devil dogs are not going to tell yall that though.

All of those other race of people know who God's Angels are but, they are liars so they are not going to tell yall the truth because they are devils who will fight with God every day.

Michael Giles weapon was Legal and he did not even kill that other dude, he just shot him in a part of his body that would not kill him.

I suppose if it was a born mentally disturbed white guy or a born mentally disturbed mexican guy then he would have gotten away with it. Didn't I tell you black people how stupid these white people are? And it is because they are DUMMIES which makes them DEVILS because God did not create any of them. Those white people ain't nothing but, a bunch of DUMMIES who are trying to take control over everbody else as if they are the superior ones over all.

usfg


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Male, 57, Austell, GA

Posted December 14, 2013


The_Harbinger
The_Harbinger

Female, 54, Chicago, IL


Those backwards thinking always getting it wrong white dummies did not even lock up that psychotic minded Mexican Zimmerman for shooting ang killing a black guy who did not have a gun on him but, a bag of skittles on him and did not like to fight and that Mexican Dog Zimmerman knew that Trayvon Martin did not carry guns and that is why that foreign disease carrying and passing devil dog from another country had shot him dead.

Those racist white people knew that Trayvon Martin was a Angel sent from heaven by God but, those racist white devil dogs are not going to tell yall that though.

All of those other race of people know who God's Angels are but, they are liars so they are not going to tell yall the truth because they are devils who will fight with God every day.

Michael Giles weapon was Legal and he did not even kill that other dude, he just shot him in a part of his body that would not kill him.

I suppose if it was a born mentally disturbed
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Thank you Harbinger, you provide unique insights and perspectives that challenge all who read them that we must do better toward our fellow man and woman.

As far as I'm concerned, whom ever is offended can go suck nut's too.


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Female, 55, Coleman, FL

Posted December 15, 2013


ohhhh I get it.

you have immature mind lol whoever agrees s/you is cool .... whoever doesn't they have something wrong with their memory lol

yeah you really do suck.


AND I meant what I said.... some idiot shooting into a crowd of people is begging for TROUBLE...

AND as we mature adults are well aware, TROUBLE is easy to get into and hard to get out of.

So listen up, kid... knowledge w/o understanding adds up to a hill of beans---that and 2 dollars will get you a cup of coffee.

Just thought I'd share that with you.

AND TWO WRONGS HASN'T EVER MADE IT RIGHT... IT JUST MADE TWO WRONGS.

smh at condoning shooting into a crowd of ... and I am assuming.... MOSTLY PROMISING YOUNG BLACK AMERICANS ...seeing how the rivalry was between FAMU fraternities.

that's it. you are officially on my "you big dummy" list... you are so racist, you cannot see the forest for the trees. ... you have issues. you should go get those fixed.

thought I'd share that s/you, too.

how's them coco'nuts'? lol


vh47
vh47

Male, Age Private, Park Forest, IL

Posted December 15, 2013


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Female, 55, Coleman, FL


the problem is that he left the brawl and came back armed to find his friends, as with Zimmerman, this is not stand your ground.

the attacker is guilty of a lesser crime, but guilty none the less.

the issue is that misguided persons view stand your ground as a right to do whatever it takes to come out on top in defense of self or defense of others.

marissa was a victim of abuse, she already effed up in the head. she should have left but her cognitive abilities has been skewered by physical abuse aka psts.

now I understand the thinking of i'm going get my friends, but we don't leave s/o our friends in the first place. just saying,we stand and fight to the end or get the h3ll out of the environment asap, even if we have to drag the straggler along. or stay there and stomp a mud hole in some arses if need be. ...but of we should seek to logically avoid stupidity...but if rival anything is involved emotions are already on edge and make
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You wont hear anything disagreement from me. You don't bring a gun to a fist fight. The Zimmerman case has everyone up in the air ,but they fell to realize is that for the same reason that they think Zimmerman is guilty is the reason the others are guilty. Neither Zimmerman, Alexander, Dunn or this guy were really in fear of their life and the force they used did not match the assailants threat . Ignorance of the law is no excuse for the defendant or those who support the notion that they victims of a racist judicial system. As far as the Dunn case is concerned he is not eligible for the 10 ten year sentence because he discharged his weapon during the crime that's why Alexander got the 20 instead of ten. Dunn should get life which is the max, now I watched the Zimmerman trial and based on the evidence presented I understood how they found him not guilty but theres no way h^ll they could arrive at a not guilty verdict in his case.


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Male, 57, Austell, GA

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Female, 55, Coleman, FL


ohhhh I get it.

you have immature mind lol whoever agrees s/you is cool .... whoever doesn't they have something wrong with their memory lol

yeah you really do suck.


AND I meant what I said.... some idiot shooting into a crowd of people is begging for TROUBLE...

AND as we mature adults are well aware, TROUBLE is easy to get into and hard to get out of.

So listen up, kid... knowledge w/o understanding adds up to a hill of beans---that and 2 dollars will get you a cup of coffee.

Just thought I'd share that with you.

AND TWO WRONGS HASN'T EVER MADE IT RIGHT... IT JUST MADE TWO WRONGS.

smh at condoning shooting into a crowd of ... and I am assuming.... MOSTLY PROMISING YOUNG BLACK AMERICANS ...seeing how the rivalry was between FAMU fraternities.

that's it. you are officially on my "you big dummy" list... you are so racist, you cannot see the forest for the trees.
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All I'm trying to say is "what is good for the goose, should be good for the gander". I don't even know the racial identity of the person who was shoot in the case.

All I know is that grown azz White men have been killing black youth and are able to use the powers that be to cover up their crimes.

If you can't beat them, join them and make the laws to protect all equally. If the bar is lowered to take a life in one instance it should be lowered no matter the race, creed, religion, or sexual orientation. Then people might be able to come to terms with the irrationality of these laws.

Trying to convince someone who has an inherent fear of others is less likely to achieve any significant results, particularly if the math doesn't add up.

But, you'll keep trying, you have my support. Because ultimately, we all benefit.


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Female, 55, Coleman, FL

Posted December 15, 2013


vh47
vh47

Male, Age Private, Park Forest, IL


You wont hear anything disagreement from me. You don't bring a gun to a fist fight. The Zimmerman case has everyone up in the air ,but they fell to realize is that for the same reason that they think Zimmerman is guilty is the reason the others are guilty. Neither Zimmerman, Alexander, Dunn or this guy were really in fear of their life and the force they used did not match the assailants threat . Ignorance of the law is no excuse for the defendant or those who support the notion that they victims of a racist judicial system. As far as the Dunn case is concerned he is not eligible for the 10 ten year sentence because he discharged his weapon during the crime that's why Alexander got the 20 instead of ten. Dunn should get life which is the max, now I watched the Zimmerman trial and based on the evidence presented I understood how they found him not guilty but theres no way h^ll they could arrive at a not guilty verdict in his case.


I agree s/what you stated.

but I know Zimmerman is a friggin liar. he played a game I mostly see from white girls crying victim when they started the crap in the first place. I hate that fake azz tears i'm so scared friggin white girl's game. Zimmerman wasn't afraid and he didn't conquer his fears by stalking and approaching Martin. He felt extra brave b/c he k that he was toting. That was his courage to be an azzhole. When Martin didn't back down, it was a blow to Zimmerman's pride. It cost Martin his life. Zimmerman will pay for that crime of 2nd degree murder as long as he lives on the face of this planet and if he doesn't clear his conscious (been reading about his self-destructive guilt ridden behavior--psych 101 criminals want to get caught and punished), it may carry over into eternity.

Alexander, well she left and returned and capped off. I've seen physically abused women...they will go to the panic room... but i'm telling you, when they have had enough, they will snap at the slightest movement of danger. ... the burning bed is a perfect example....seent that in real life, too.

that's my pov as I see it.


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Female, 55, Coleman, FL

Posted December 15, 2013


lol at inherited fear of whites.

1. some are afraid inherently, most are not. they know that the law are on their side when it comes to white vs minority. I work s/them. Fear is not part of their games. Prejudice is taught and for those that practice it, they have a superiority complex. it's very ugly and totally illogical and hard to reason with b/c they are required to unlearn their miseducation...most resist as most resist change. the status quo is their comfort zone. people hate to leave their comfort zone. you know that.

2. But, you'll keep trying, you have my support. Because ultimately, we all benefit. .... I can agree s/you on that.


vh47
vh47

Male, Age Private, Park Forest, IL

Posted December 15, 2013


You are right on point on Zimmerman. Zimmerman had never had his azz whoop before and I am sure when he challenged this kid(in his mind) and he didn't back down it threaten everything he thought about himself. I am White, a person of authority and this neg-ro is beating my azz with a Arizona tea can. His lawyer was correct in not going for Stand Your ground and instead used self defense.I didn't like the fact that sucker got off ,but with the weak case the prosecution put on I see why .I understand why Alexander did what she did ,but I don't understand the lies she told during and after the trial nor do I understand her turning down the plea deal and taking her chances with the 10-20-life sentence guidelines. Alexander has a masters degree and it didn't occur to her that 1. They caught me in a lie about the garage door wouldn't open 2.While out on bail and ordered not to have contact with Rico Gray I not only violated the order but I also assaulted him. 3. I feared for my life in the August attack but didn't call 911 and after the assault(she claimed he attacked her) I still didn't call 911. 4. the jury that will hear my case will probably be all white or majority white. This 4 things are good reasons to accept the plea deal .I wont stand in judgement tho because I have never been nor will I be a battered woman.
Lastly it is correct there a lot of Whites getting away with murder using Stang Your ground and other laws ,but its foolish to ask the judicial system to do the same for us. Right is right and wrong is wrong, so make sure justice is dealt out equally regardless of race.


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