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Are there any cities for Black people to live and prosper. Moderate priced homes, good schools, good jobs, low crime, fair taxes, etc.?

Can you help me by naming a few? Even one? Lets see if we can get to three or five.

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Male, 41, White City, OR

Posted July 31, 2010












Male, 41, White City, OR

Posted July 31, 2010 /01/nyregion/01census.html?ei= 5090&en=2ef39d445a4d36da&a mp;ex=1317355200&partner=r ssuserland&emc=rss&pag ewanted=all

Black Incomes Surpass Whites in Queens
Suzanne DeChillo/The York Times

The Cambria Heights neighborhood in Queens, a county that belies the ?stereotype of blacks living in dangerous, concentrated, poor, slum, urban neighborhoods,? one policy expert says.

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Published: October 1, 2006

Across the country, the income gap between blacks and whites remains wide, and nowhere more so than in Manhattan. But just a river away, a very different story is unfolding.
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Kenneth C. Holder, elected to a judgeship last year, says he could move from Queens, ?but why??
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Elvira and Lloyd Hicks at home in Cambria Heights, where they moved from Harlem in 1959.
The York Times

In Queens, the median income among black households, nearing $52,000 a year, has surpassed that of whites in 2005, an analysis of census data shows. No other county in the country with a population over 65,000 can make that claim. The gains among blacks in Queens, the city?s quintessential middle-class borough, were driven largely by the growth of two-parent families and the successes of immigrants from the West Indies. Many live in tidy homes in verdant enclaves like Cambria Heights, Rosedale and Laurelton, just west of the Cross Island Parkway and the border with Nassau County.

David Veron, a 45-year-old lawyer, is one of them. He estimates that the house in St. Albans that he bought with his wife, Nitchel, three years ago for about $320,000 has nearly doubled in value since they renovated it. Two-family homes priced at $600,000 and more seem to be sprouting on every vacant lot, he says.

?Southeast Queens, especially, had a heavy influx of West Indian folks in the late 80?s and early 90?s,? said Mr. Veron, who, like his 31-year-old wife, was born on the island of Jamaica. ?Those individuals came here to pursue an opportunity, and part of that opportunity was an education,? he said. ?A large percentage are college graduates. We?re now maturing and reaching the peak of our earning capacity.?

Richard P. Nathan, co-director of the Nelson A. Rockefeller Institute of Government in Albany, called Queens ?the flip side of the underclass.?

?It really is the best illustration that the stereotype of blacks living in dangerous, concentrated, poor, slum, urban neighborhoods is misleading and doesn?t predominate,? he said.

Andrew A. Beveridge, a Queens College demographer who analyzed results of the Census Bureau?s 2005 American Community Survey, released in August, for The York Times, said of the trend: ?It started in the early 1990?s, and now it?s consolidated. They?re married-couple families living the American dream in southeast Queens.?

In 1994, an analysis for The Times found that in some categories, the median income of black households in Queens was slightly higher than that of whites ? a milestone in itself. By 2000, whites had pulled slightly ahead. But blacks have since rebounded.

The only other places where black household income is higher than among whites are much smaller than Queens, like Mount Vernon in Westchester, Pembroke Pines, Fla.; Brockton, Mass.; and Rialto, Calif. Most of the others also have relatively few blacks or are poor.


Male, 41, White City, OR

Posted July 31, 2010

But Queens is unique not only because it is home to about two million people, but also because both blacks and whites there make more than the national median income, about $46,000.

Even as blacks have surged ahead of whites in Queens, over all they have fallen behind in Manhattan. With the middle class there shrinking, those remaining are largely either the wealthy, who are predominantly white, or the poor, who are mostly black and Hispanic, the census data shows.

Median income among blacks in Manhattan was $28,116, compared with $86,494 among whites, the widest gap of any large county in the country.

In contrast, the middle-class black neighborhoods of Queens evoke the ?zones of emergence? that nurtured economically rising European immigrants a century ago, experts say. ?It?s how the Irish, the Italians, the Jews got out of the slums,? Professor Nathan said.

Despite the economic progress among blacks in Queens, income gaps still endure within the borough?s black community, where immigrants, mostly from the Caribbean, are generally doing better than American-born blacks.

?Racism and the lack of opportunity created a big gap and kind of put us at a deeper disadvantage,? said Steven Dennison, an American-born black resident of Springfield Gardens.

Mr. Dennison, a 49-year-old electrical contractor, has four children. One is getting her doctoral degree; another will graduate from college this school year. ?It starts with the school system,? Mr. Dennison said.

Mr. Vernon, the lawyer from Jamaica, said: ?It?s just that the people who left the Caribbean to come here are self-starters. It only stands to reason they would be more aggressive in pursuing their goals. And that creates a separation.?

Housing patterns do, too. While blacks make more than whites ? even those in the borough?s wealthiest neighborhoods, including Douglaston ? they account for fewer than 1 in 20 residents in some of those communities. And among blacks themselves, there are disparities, depending on where they live.

According to the latest analysis, black households in Queens reported a median income of $51,836 compared with $50,960 for non-Hispanic whites (and $52,998 for Asians and $43,927 among Hispanic people).

Among married couples in Queens, the gap was even greater: $78,070 among blacks, higher than any other racial or ethnic group, and $74,503 among whites.

Hector Ricketts, 50, lives with his wife, Opal, a legal secretary, and their three children in Rosedale. A Jamaican immigrant, he has a master?s degree in health care administration, but after he was laid off more than a decade ago he realized that he wanted to be an entrepreneur. He established a commuter van service.

?When immigrants come here, they?re not accustomed to social programs,? he said, ?and when they see opportunities they had no access to ? tuition or academic or practical training ? they are God-sent, and they use those programs to build themselves and move forward.?

Immigrants helped propel the gains among blacks. The median income of foreign-born black households was $61,151, compared with $45,864 for American-born blacks. The disparity was even more pronounced among black married couples.

The median for married black immigrants was $84,338, nearly as much as for native-born white couples. For married American-born blacks, it was $70,324.

One reason for the shifting income pattern is that some wealthier whites have moved away.

?As non-Hispanic whites have gotten richer, they have left Queens for the Long Island suburbs, leaving behind just middle-class whites,? said Professor Edward N. Wolff, an economist at York University. ?Since home ownership is easier for whites than blacks in the suburbs ? mortgages are easier to get for whites ? the middle-class whites left in Queens have been relatively poor. Middle-class black families have had a harder time buying homes in the Long Island suburbs, so that blacks that remain in Queens are relatively affluent.?

The white median also appeared to have been depressed slightly by the disproportionate number of elderly whites on fixed incomes.

But even among the elderly, blacks fared better. Black households headed by a person older than 65 reported a median income of $35,977, compared with $28,232 for white households.

Lloyd Hicks, 77, who moved to Cambria Heights from Harlem in 1959, used to run a freight-forwarding business near Kennedy Airport. His wife, Elvira, 71, was a teacher. Both were born in York City, but have roots in Trinidad. He has a bachelor?s degree in business. She has a master?s in education.

?Education was always something the families from the islands thought the children should have,? Mr. Hicks said.


Male, 41, White City, OR

Posted July 31, 2010

In addition to the larger share of whites who are elderly, said Andrew Hacker, a Queens College political scientist, ?black Queens families usually need two earners to get to parity with working whites.?

Kenneth C. Holder, 46, a former prosecutor who was elected to a Civil Court judgeship last year, was born in London of Jamaican and Guyanese parents and grew up in Laurelton. His wife, Sharon, who is Guyanese, is a secretary at a Manhattan law firm. They own a home in Rosedale, where they live with their three sons.

?Queens has a lot of good places to live; I could move, but why?? Mr. Holder said. ?There are quite a number of two-parent households and a lot of ancillary services available for youth, put up by organized block associations and churches, like any middle-class area.?

In smaller categories, the numbers become less precise. Still, for households headed by a man, median income was $61,151 for blacks and $54,537 for whites. Among households headed by a woman, the black and white medians were the same: $50,960.

Of the more than 800,000 households in Queens, according to the Census Bureau?s 2005 American Community Survey, about 39 percent are white, 23 percent are Hispanic, 18 percent are Asian, and 17 percent are black ? suggesting multiple hues rather than monotone black and white.

?It is wrong to say that America is ?fast becoming two nations? the way the Kerner Commission did,? said Professor Nathan, who was the research director for the National Advisory Commission on Civil Disorders in 1968 and disagreed with its conclusion. ?It might be, though, that it was more true then than it is now.?


Male, 41, White City, OR

Posted July 31, 2010

The only other places where black household income is higher than among whites are much smaller than Queens, like Mount Vernon in Westchester, Pembroke Pines, Fla.; Brockton, Mass.; and Rialto, Calif. Most of the others also have relatively few blacks or are poor.


Male, 41, White City, OR

Posted July 31, 2010 /19/nyregion/scarsdale-s-effor ts-to-attract-blacks.html?scp= 37&sq=blacks%20and%20loans &st=Search


Published: July 19, 1981

Illustrations: Photo of Foster family at home in Scarsdale

"SCARSDALE had an aura about it that made me afraid to drive into the place," a black woman confided recently at a party. Since then she has moved to Scarsdale at the invitation of a group of white residents, who not only wanted more minorities, mainly blacks, to share the good life of Scarsdale, but also were willing to pay money to have them come.

The group has given out $175,000 in 6 percent second mortgage loans to upper-middle-class black families to help them buy homes. But the results are small: only 15 black families have accepted loans in 13 years. Half of those famiies have already moved away, and these have been no loan applicants for a year. A few other families, hearing of the welcome, have been inspired to move without finanial aid.

The number is too small to suit the group, the Scarsdale Open Society Association, known locally as SOSA. It is also considered too small and a mixed blessing by some of the black residents, estimated by the association as about 50 families in a population of 18,000 persons.

"Until we are here in greater numbers,and the police don't stop our little boy on the street and say "What are you doing in this neighborhood"--this is a respectable neighborhood--we won't feel comfortable," said Cecilia Foster, who moved to Scarsdale 11 years ago when her son was 6 and her daughter 4.

"The same thing has happened to a lot of black families, and it's always the boys, not the girls," she said. "A black man in a white neighborhood is still bad s. We're not really thought of as members of the community." The association was started in 1968 by Malcolm McIntyre, Village Trustee and later Mayor, and over the years has included five other Scarsdale mayors and several trustees. Most of the association's board members have been members of the Town Club, a prestigious civic group whose members nominate or become candidate for various boards in a nonpartisan, single-party village government.

It has included men and women, Democrats and Rebuplicans, Protestants, Catholics and Jews and, in recent years, both blacks and whites.

The association's charter said the group wanted to "create a more racially balanced community by offering financial assistance to minority families." All minorities were included, but only blacks have applied.

"We weren't trying to be Lady or Gentleman Bountiful, or to be patronizing," Luella Slaner, an association board member, said recently. "There are a lot of black people, professional people, who would like to live in Scarsdale but they haven't amassed enough money to make the down payment."

The first seven members agreed to donate $1,000 and to lend $4,000 each at 3 percent interest. Some contributed more, and some decided to turn their loans into a gift. The first fund reached $85,000. The first loans were for a maximum of $10,000, but some borrowers asked for less.

"In those days, you could get a good house for $40,000," said James M. Carlisle, a former Village Justice and counsel, secretary, and treasurer of the group. "Now you pay $100,000 for a little salt box." " The maximum has been raised to $25,000 because of the increase in house prices. The association's literature says that houses in Scarsdale start at 95,000 and average upwards of $150,000.

The object was to attract the same kind of person that already lives in Scarsdale--professionals and executives with good incomes and good prospects who needed only part of a down payment and who could afford the sizable mortgages.

"I've turned down applications for people who can't afford to live here, " Mr. Carlisle said. "If people get into trouble financially because you loan them money,it's not right."

The borrowers have included doctors, a minister, an electrical engineer, corporate executives, a public-relations consultant and a jazz musician. Most are in their 30's and 40's with small children.

Those who have moved away have done so in the normal course of events, because of company transfers, job changes or divorce, and not from disappointment in Scarsdale, acording to George Szabad, a former Mayor and one of the founders of the association. Eleven of the 15 loans have ben repaid, and three received time extensions or additional funds; only one defaulted, after a business failure, and the loan was recovered after his mortgage was foreclosed.

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