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Blacks, as usual, misplace their outrage and ignore the REAL problems




Chicago, IL February 21, 2009

Spike Lee, Al Sharpton wants boycott of New York Post

Blacks, as usual, misplace their outrage and ignore the REAL problems

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Tall_Dark_Aries
Tall_Dar...

Male, 38, Chicago, IL

Posted Feb 21


Memo to BLACK PEOPLE: Make up your damn minds!

Make up your minds! One minute you are calling Al Sharpton a POVERTY PIMP, RACE-BAITER and CONKED-HAIRED OPPORTUNIST, the next you want to march behind him because of a cartoon?



There are literally a MILLION videos of young BLACK WOMEN and YOUNG BLACK GIRLS on YouTube, MySpace, Facebook posting videos of themselves exposing their bodies and anatomy for the entire world to see, dancing in panties and thongs to the tunes of "Shake dat Booty Meat" and a cartoon in the NY Post sparks outrage and indignation?

Can we say BLACK PEOPLE ARE PYSCHO and have racial schizo problems?

LMAO


A cartoon in the NY Post did not kill three BLACK YOUNG MEN in Chicago yesterday.

A BLACK YOUNG MAN with an automatic weapon killed THREE OTHER BLACK MEN. He killed them with armor-piercing BULLETS not soluble ink or newsprint.

Today, in almost every city in this nation -- a BLACK MAN will rape and assault a BLACK WOMAN - not a cartoon in the NY POST.

Today in almost every city in this country -- a YOUNG BLACK GIRL is getting an abortion -- her body is being ravaged by forceps, not by newsprint and cartoons.

Today in almost every city in this country, more BLACK MEN will join the rank of the unemployed, jobless and homeless -- I don't think they even read the NY Post.

Today in Zimbabwe another BLACK CHILD will probably die from polio, cholera or lead poisoning -- not from newsprint ink.

I have outrage over those things -- not a damn cartoon!

BLACK PEOPLE CALL OTHER BLACK PEOPLE THE FOLLOWING:

APES
MONKEY
DARKIE
BLACK
COON
HOUSE NIGGA
BOOTY MEAT
HOOD RAT
SAVAGE
THUG
SELL-OUT

Make up your minds! One minute you are calling Al Sharpton a POVERTY PIMP, RACE-BAITER and CONKED-HAIRED OPPORTUNIST, the next you want to march behind him because of a cartoon?

Our attitudes

Our ignorance

Our savagery

--Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan,
Chicago, IL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =gSd8DAEHkLk


moniQTee
moniQTee

Female, Age Private, Los Angeles, CA

Posted Feb 21


HERE HERE!


Tall_Dark_Aries
Tall_Dar...

Male, 38, Chicago, IL

Posted Feb 21


Today in almost every city in this country -- a YOUNG BLACK GIRL is getting an abortion -- her body is being ravaged by forceps, not by newsprint and cartoons.


.......her body is being ravaged, her womb violated by a coat hanger, or if she is lucky and can afford it, by cold, steel FORCEPS -- not by soluble ink newsprint and cartoons.

Where is the same OUTRAGE over that?

Why don't Al Sharpton and Spike Lee start a boycott and protest over that: .......YOUNG BLACK GIRLS AND BLACK WOMEN BODIES being ravaged, their wombs violated by a coat hanger, or if she is lucky and can afford it, by cold, steel FORCEPS -- not by soluble ink newsprint and cartoons.


tkenu1
tkenu1

Male, 43, New York, NY

Posted Feb 21


SEE AL ONLY FIGHTS BATTLES THAT HE CAN WIN, QUICK RESULTS NOT WORLD CHANGING ISSUES. HE ALSO SERVES AS A PACIFIER HE CALMS US DOWN AND REDIRECTS OUR ANGER AWAY FROM VIOLENT PROTEST AND THOUGHT PROVOKING SOCIAL DIALOGUE WITH HIS "LET ME HANDLE THIS APPROACH" HE IS AN AGENT FOR THE GOVERNMENT, HE AND OTHERS LIKE HIM DISTRACT US WITH SILLY NAME CALLING ISSUES WHILE THE MASSES OF US ARE FALLING BY THE WAY-SIDE STILL BLINDED BY HIS MISDIRECTION AND PREACHER'S RHETORIC.


Tall_Dark_Aries
Tall_Dar...

Male, 38, Chicago, IL

Posted Feb 21


@tkenu1

At last! A brotha with some sense and foresight and deep insight on these BP threads.

When I make it back to the NYC for work, dinner on me at Ruby Foo's.

LMAO

Peace


RonRoyce26
RonRoyce26

Male, 32, Albany, NY

Posted Feb 21


YEAH...

BUT WHAT GOOD IS IT TO BE OUTRAGED BY

THE
BOOTYMEATS
MURDER OF BLACK MEN BY OTHER BLACK MEN
DISRESPECT FROM OTHER BLACK PEOPLE
RAPING AND ABORTIONS OF LITTLE GIRLS
ETC...ETC.. (ALL THE THINGS U MENTIONED)

IF WE ARE NOT TRYING TO GET TO THE ROOT CAUSES OF THE PROBLEM...

THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE ANGRY ABOUT...

NOT THE MANIFESTATION OF THE PROBLEM...


REMEMBER.. NO ONE APPOINTED SHARPTON
HE APPOINTED HIMSELF...

ANYONE OF US CAN DO THE SAME AND APPOINT OURSELVES...


BUT WHY DO IT, , WHEN THE CONSCIOUS AND PSYCHE OF OUR PEOPLE WOULD MAKE IT A TRIVIAL PURSUIT?


COME ON MAN.... THINK ABOUT IT..

AFTER OBAMA WON, , THERE WERE AMPLE BLACK PEOPLE READY TO DENOUNCE MALCOM X AND EVEN MLK

BLACK PEOPLE HAVE SHORT MEMORIES

DONT WANT TO FACE THEMSELVES IN THE MIRROR

AND GET VERY ANGRY IF U TELL THEM, THEY ARE THE PROBLEM...


WHAT'S THE USE??
WHAT'S THE POINT??

SUPPOSED SOMEONE WANTS TO STEP UP AND BE A LEADER AND TACKLE THE ISSUES THAT U RAISED...

WHO'S GONNA FINANCIALLY SUPPORT HIM??
WHAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT HIM IN THE MEDIA??


AT LEAST DO LIKE AL SHARPTON AND MAKE SOME MONEY OF, OF THIS SHYT OR IF NOT MONEY, GET THE PUBLICITY...


RonRoyce26
RonRoyce26

Male, 32, Albany, NY

Posted Feb 21


HOW ABOUT WE COMMISSION

STUDIES THAT EXPLAINS THE ROOT CAUSES OF CRIME

OR WHAT CAUSES LITTLE GIRLS TO HAVE SEX, DISPLAY THEIR LITTLE STANK BOOTIES, GET PREGNANT


WAIT... WE ALREADY DID THAT...

BUT PEOPLE DONT WANT LIKE WHAT THEY HEAR, BECAUSE THE BRUSH PAINTS THEM AS WELL...


WE ARE A REMARKABLE PEOPLE...

WE ALL WANT TO LIVE ANY OL WAY AND DO ANYTHING WE WANT

BUT YET, EXPECT THE BEST RESULTS....


javon707
javon707

Male, 32, Sacramento, CA

Posted Feb 21


because black people are complacent and comfortable with complaining. black folks are scared of revolution. not willing to take a stand or even die for a real cause. we have "let someone else deal with it syndrome". we complain about the disarray of our communities but uphold the "no snitch policy". we throw a welcome home party for "pookie" when he gets released from the prison after serving 10 years for "putting in work" and for his contribution for making the community in the disarray that it is, but we frown up at dexter and act cynical because he obtained his master's from a university. call him a "sellout" or a "house nigga" because he moved away from the very same place that would have made him pay dearly for being successful. yeah gotta love it right?


Tall_Dark_Aries
Tall_Dar...

Male, 38, Chicago, IL

Posted Feb 21


@Javon707

As usual, very good and valid points.

@Forum

We have entire BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS beseiged by crime and BLACK THUGS (usually BLACK BOYS) -- and the good Revered Al Sharpton wants boycotts, protests and public outrage directed toward a damn cartoon?

In Detroit, it is not a cartoon, it is BLACK MEN shooting other BLACK MEN in the face.

BLACK GIRLS and BLACK WOMEN are being raped by BLACK MEN -- not by an ugly cartoon in the NY Post!

The HUNDREDS of young black men and black women fighting each other with vicious rage at a high school basketball game was most likely fueled by SELF-HATRED -- not by a damn cartoon in the NY Post.

Where is the outrage, protest and boycotts over that?

Our ignorance

Our attitudes

Our savagery


RonRoyce26
RonRoyce26

Male, 32, Albany, NY

Posted Feb 21


WHAT CAN SHARPTON DO?

HOW CAN HE CHANGE THE PSYCHE OF A PEOPLE??

HOW CAN HE CHANGE THE VALUES AND ETHICS OF A PEOPLE??

WE LIVE IN A POLITICALLY CORRECT SOCIETY AND PEOPLE CANT REALLY SAY HOW THEY FEEL IN THE MEDIA OR ELSE THEY ARE PUNISHED...


SERIOUSLY.. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A FORUM ABOUT THIS..

PRETEND YOU ARE SHARPTON FOR A DAY, A WEEK, A MONTH, A YEAR OR HOWEVER LONG U THINK U COULD BE EFFECTIVE FOR..


WHAT WOULD YOU DO [DIFFERENTLY] IF U WERE SHARPTON AND HOW WOULD YOU BRING ABOUT CHANGE???


Tall_Dark_Aries
Tall_Dar...

Male, 38, Chicago, IL

Posted Feb 21


@RonRoyce

It is not just AL SHARPTON. he is not the problem. he is only a face in the media, a voice formenting a cause and a scion of the civil rights movement -- he is not the problem. I have no issues with rev. Al -- what I do see as a problem is how we seem to galvanize over "sound bites" and quick hits.

What really would a boycott or protest over a damn cartoon in the NY Post solve? Really, what would it solve?

Would it make ONE more job for a black man?

Would it stop one more BLACK BOY from being shot in the face this weekend in Detroit or Chicago?

Would it prevent one more BLACK GIRL from feeling cold, steel forceps snatch a fetus from her womb at an abortion clinic?

Our ignorance

Our attitudes

Our savagery


RonRoyce26
RonRoyce26

Male, 32, Albany, NY

Posted Feb 21


WELL

I UNDERSTAND U..

BUT THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IS SOUNDBITES...

WHAT ELSE IS LEFT??

CRIME IS A COMPLEX ISSUE
TEEN PREGNANCY AND ABORTION IS A COMPLEX ISSUE

AND ARE MERELY A MANIFESTATION OF THE ROOT CAUSES...

IF ARE TO GALVANIZE AGAINST THE MANIFESTATION OF THE PROBLEM... IT WONT DO US ANY GOOD NEITHER

UNLESS WE TACKLE THE ROOT CAUSES...



IT'S LIKE TRYING TO STOP A SNOWBALL TOWARDS THE BOTTOM OF ITS TRIP, WHEN IT;S GOTTEN ALL BIG AND AMASSED SUCH A FORCE THAT U SIMPLY HAVE TO MOVE OUT THE WAY...

AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO STOP THE SNOWBALL AT THE VERY TOP, WHEN IT DIDNT GET A CHANCE TO GROW OR AMASS FORCE...


WHAT CAUSES CRIME?
WHAT CAUSES TEENAGE PREGNANCY AND ABORTIONS??

ITS THE CAUSES WE SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT, INSTEAD OF THE MANIFESTATION OF THE PROBLEMS...


modenasolone22
modenaso...

Male, 28, Savannah, GA

Posted Feb 21


Sharpton is only and always putting on airs again. Its just another public venue "dog and pony show" for those that are easy swayed by such nonsense.

And to think, he did all of this for an tongue-in-cheek apology? Niggas missed work to chant and bytch...Lol. Niggas honestly need to get real.

_______


The Revolution isn't coming... As long as an internal civil war does not takes place, its not happening. Especially with so many subsidized niggas today.

But if and when it does, it will be televised.


javon707
javon707

Male, 32, Sacramento, CA

Posted Feb 21


restructuring the black community has a whole will not be an easy feat. you have generations that are "instituionalized" into the system. when they relocate former tenants of low income housing projects to other communities, some have a hard time adapting. same with some black's views of society. some simply are so complacent or institutionalized into the victimhood mentality, that they dont know whether they would really want change or know how to deal with it. my question is how would we transition into change? do we try to rehabilitate the older generation or do we start over with the youth?


modenasolone22
modenaso...

Male, 28, Savannah, GA

Posted Feb 21


"do we try to rehabilitate the older generation or do we start over with the youth?"

When you say older generation, what age bracket do you mean? I know the majority of most black folk that was born pre civil rights have a clue. Especially in the non cosmopolitan parts of the country.


RonRoyce26
RonRoyce26

Male, 32, Albany, NY

Posted Feb 21


"""my question is how would we transition into change? do we try to rehabilitate the older generation or do we start over with the youth?"""

IT DEPENDS

HOW DO WE REHABILITATE??

I THINK THE COURSE OF ACTIONS DETERMINES WHICH GROUPS GETS THE FOCUS ON THEM....


tkenu1
tkenu1

Male, 43, New York, NY

Posted Feb 21


ON THE CONTRARY AL SHARPTON IS THE PROBLEM, HE AND RAINBOW COALITION JACKSON THEY ARE SENT IN TO PACIFY THE NATIVES WHEN THEY BECOME RESTLESS THEY KEEP US IN THE PAST SO WE CAN'T CHANGE OUR FUTURE. CHANGES ARE MADE AT BIG TABLES NOT STREET CORNERS. ITS THE DEALS THAT ARE STRUCK IN PRIVATE THAT CHANGES THE POLICIES AND LAWS THAT GOVERN US. THEY GET PLENTY OF MEDIA COVERAGE AT TO US IT LOOKS AS THOUGH OUR ISSUES ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BUT IN THE END WE HAVE SIMPLY PUT OUR FATES IN THE HANDS OF THOSE THAT ARE PRO-ESTABLISHMENT AND PAYED TO KEEP US UNDER THE INFLUENCES OF THE PAST.


razman1
razman1

Male, 36, Bronx, NY

Posted Feb 21


It is easy to say there are more important things to be angry about than the cartoon and you would be right, but what is the point of harping on what battle Rev. Al decided to fight? If people want to tackle what they perceive to be a bigger issue or more important issue then go do it. No one is stopping you.

What is the purpose of being annoyed with someone else's battle and why they wage it? I would protest and boycott the NY Post because it is a right wing rag of bigotry masquerading as a legitimate media outlet owned by Rupert Murdoch who also plagues out airwaves and TV's with crap like Fox News on general principle whether I was mad at the latest cartoon or not. Is there merit in boycotting it regardless of which racially tinged insensitive incident started it?

I'm not mad at the cartoon I am glad they printed it. It is just another reminder of how our plight in America is ignored unlike any other ethnic group. Would a media outlet have posted a similar cartoon putting the officers in swatstikas saying someone else will have to write the next Holocaust movie? Hell no! Would they have dressed the officers as INS agents saying someone else will have to deliver the next pizza? Hell no! Stuff like this happens to blacks and about blacks because they know we will buy anything, consume anything and will not punish anyone economically long enough for it to make a difference to their bottomline. Our attention span is too short and we fight each over about what other people want to do to make a difference. Whether it works or not is almost irrelevant when we dig at each other just for trying. It becomes a joke when we don't take it seriously. Black people were not the only people out there. Black people weren't the only ones offended either. With all the people defending the Post over this incident I would not want my voice to bolster their hidden agenda of bigotry. If protesting the Post is of no concern to you then fine...

In light of all the minorities (black men in particular) being shot by police officers since the beginning of the year this cartoon was in poor taste no matter what the guy really meant. The apology given was crappiest I have heard in a log time. They shouldn't have even bothered. A-Rod and Chris Brown sounded more sincere.

In my opinion the constant disrespect and misrepresentation of Black people in the media in general and Rupert Murdoch controlled properties specifically Fox News and the NY Post IS a REAL problem not an imagined one. So who is really ignoring the REAL problems?


RonRoyce26
RonRoyce26

Male, 32, Albany, NY

Posted Feb 21


""A-Rod and Chris Brown sounded more sincere.""

LOL.


razman1
razman1

Male, 36, Bronx, NY

Posted Feb 21


What black women are exposing themselves on these various websites is a SELF-ESTEEM issue. I can't make them keep their clothes on, but we all know how the media helps to create and maintain self esteem issues in our youth. So attack a media outlet so blatantly disrespectful of people of various ethnicities is a step in attacking this problem which is considered "real enough".

Black on black crime has a cause and industrial prison complex has a vested interest in making sure it continues. There are other factors involved besides black men being violent towards each other. No one on BP is going to deny how systematic racism in this country has affected our communities even though things are improving for us in general most are not under the illusion that we are treated equally. The media has been very instrumental in maintaining sterotypes and ideas about black people that place an extra burden in trying to escape the cycle of inner city violence. How often do they show young people arrested and put into the police cars to reinforce the idea that black people are generally criminals? How long has COPS been a top rated show? How is discrediting the validity of the Post and Fox News not helpful in negating the influence of the media in our lives? Besides I doubt Rupert Murdoch needs protection from Al Sharpton.

Can you honestly say that a lack of respect in the media is not a problem for Black people? There is something wrong with our society in America. How many times have you seen with your own eyes or heard stories of immigrants coming from Asia, Europe, Africa, The Carribean, Mexico... Central and South America all coming here and making a life for themselves and looking down on Blacks born in America for not being able to do the same? Is it just because there is something wrong with us as Black people? No, it is not just us. Do we have our share of problems? Of course we do, but if you take those same immigrant families and look at their children and so on to the 3rd and 4th generations... the more Americanized they become the more likely they are to fall into the same pitfalls we do. The more they begin to exhibit the same characteristics their fathers, grandfathers, and great-grandfathers looked down on us for possessing.

Our priorities are often screwed up. Our values are often screwed up. We can't afford to have the same values living in America that the media and entertainment industries tell us to have.Why? Because the rules of the game in this society are not set up in our favor so we can't party, act foolish, mess up, get caught, fail to plan,get multiple chances and expect no consequences like other people in America. Not just because we are Black, but because we are black... the society was built by us but not for us. We have had a couple of generations of political freedom, but everyone got the same rights when we did. We had over 400 years of special rules against us, but they complain about the few rules that were put in place for our benefit (affirmative action is the main one they get pissy about). They had 500+ years to call us Ni**as and monkeys and kill us if we got too upset about it. So now a few people feel like saying don't call us monkeys, chimps, etc. etc. etc. directly or indirectly, out of cruelty or humor and now... Now.... NOW we throw shots at ourselves for making a stand no matter how trivial? Get out of here with that crap. 60 years ago people would have been hosed, sprayed, beaten and bitten for protesting this nonsense cartoon or anything else. Then some would have been followed home and lynched. Let Al and Spike and whoever else who wants to protest do so... in peace. There is enough bigots, racists, and sour %#&@$! people missing the good old days when "coloreds" knew their place b1tching about this big fuss over what they consider nothing.


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